Legislature(2011 - 2012)

04/20/2011 08:02 AM Joint HB24


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08:03:05 AM HB24
12:04:08 PM Adjourn
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         HB 24-EXTEND REGULATORY COMM. OF ALASKA SUNSET                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:03:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON  announced that the  only order of business  would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO. 24, "An Act  extending the termination date of the                                                               
Regulatory Commission  of Alaska; and providing  for an effective                                                               
date."   He  stated that  the committee  will be  operating under                                                               
Rule  42  on  conference  and free  conference  committees.    He                                                               
indicated  the conference  committee  would not  take any  public                                                               
testimony [House  version, CSHB 24(FIN), and  Senate version, SCS                                                               
CSHB 24(FIN), were before the committee.]                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:03:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THOMAS  moved to  accept the House  version of  the bill,                                                               
CSHB 24(FIN).                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was  taken.  Representatives Olson, Johnson, and                                                               
Holmes  voted in  favor of  the  motion to  accept CSHB  24(FIN).                                                               
Senators   Thomas,  French,   and  Paskvan   voted  against   it.                                                               
Therefore, the motion  to accept CSHB 24(FIN) failed  with a vote                                                               
of 3-0  from the House members  and 0-3 from the  Senate members.                                                               
[Please note that  a majority of the membership  of the committee                                                               
from each house  must be in agreement in order  to take action in                                                               
a conference committee.]                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON announced the motion to accept CSHB 24(FIN) failed.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:04:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THOMAS  moved to accept  the Senate version of  the bill,                                                               
SCS CSHB 24(FIN).                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was  taken.  Representatives Olson, Johnson, and                                                               
Holmes  voted against  the  motion to  accept  SCS CSHB  24(FIN).                                                               
Senators  Thomas,  French, and  Paskvan  voted  in favor  of  it.                                                               
Therefore, the  motion to accept  SCS CSHB 24(FIN) failed  with a                                                               
vote  of 0-3  from  the House  members and  3-0  from the  Senate                                                               
members.  [Please  note that a majority of the  membership of the                                                               
committee from each  house must be in agreement in  order to take                                                               
action in a conference committee.]                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON announced  the  motion to  accept  SCS CSHB  24(FIN)                                                               
failed.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:05:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON  stated that  at this  time the  Conference Committee                                                               
would  consider  each  section  of  CSHB  24(FIN)  and  SCS  CSHB
24(FIN).                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:05:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THOMAS  made a  motion to  accept Section  1 of  SCS CSHB
24(FIN).                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was  taken.  Representatives Olson, Johnson, and                                                               
Holmes voted against  the motion to accept Section 1  of SCS CSHB
24(FIN).  Senators Thomas, French,  and Paskvan voted in favor of                                                               
it.   Therefore,  the  motion to  accept Section  1  of SCS  CSHB
24(FIN) failed with a vote of  0-3 from the House members and 3-0                                                               
from the  Senate members.   [Please note  that a majority  of the                                                               
membership of the committee from  each house must be in agreement                                                               
in order to take action in a conference committee.]                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON announced that the motion  to accept Section 1 of SCS                                                               
CSHB 24(FIN) failed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:06:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THOMAS  made a  motion to  accept Section  2 of  SCS CSHB
24(FIN).                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was  taken.  Representatives Olson, Johnson, and                                                               
Holmes voted against  the motion to accept Section 2  of SCS CSHB
24(FIN).  Senators Thomas, French,  and Paskvan voted in favor of                                                               
it.   Therefore,  the  motion to  accept Section  2  of SCS  CSHB
24(FIN) failed with a vote of  0-3 from the House members and 3-0                                                               
from the  Senate members.   [Please note  that a majority  of the                                                               
membership of the committee from  each house must be in agreement                                                               
in order to take action in a conference committee.]                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON announced that the motion  to accept Section 2 of SCS                                                               
CSHB 24(FIN) failed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:07:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:07:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THOMAS  made a  motion to  accept Section  3 of  SCS CSHB
24(FIN).                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was  taken.  Representatives Olson, Johnson, and                                                               
Holmes voted  in favor of the  motion to accept Section  3 of SCS                                                               
CSHB  24(FIN).   Senators Thomas,  French, and  Paskvan voted  in                                                               
favor of  it.  Therefore, the  motion to accept Section  3 of SCS                                                               
CSHB 24(FIN)  passed with a  vote of  3-0 from the  House members                                                               
and 3-0  from the Senate members.   [Please note that  a majority                                                               
of the  membership of the  committee from  each house must  be in                                                               
agreement in order to take action in a conference committee.]                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON announced that the motion  to accept Section 3 of SCS                                                               
CSHB 24(FIN) passed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:08:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THOMAS  made  a  motion  to accept  Section  1  of  CSHB
24(FIN).                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was  taken.  Representatives Olson, Johnson, and                                                               
Holmes voted in  favor of the motion to accept  Section 1 of CSHB
24(FIN).  Senators Thomas, French,  and Paskvan voted against it.                                                               
Therefore, the motion to accept  Section 1 of CSHB 24(FIN) failed                                                               
with  a vote  of 3-0  from  the House  members and  0-3 from  the                                                               
Senate members.   [Please note that a majority  of the membership                                                               
of the  committee from each house  must be in agreement  in order                                                               
to take action in a conference committee.]                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON announced  that the  motion to  accept Section  1 of                                                               
CSHB 24(FIN) failed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:09:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THOMAS  made  a  motion  to accept  Section  2  of  CSHB
24(FIN).                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was  taken.  Representatives Olson, Johnson, and                                                               
Holmes voted in  favor of the motion to accept  Section 2 of CSHB
24(FIN).  Senators Thomas, French,  and Paskvan voted against it.                                                               
Therefore, the motion to accept  Section 2 of CSHB 24(FIN) failed                                                               
with  a vote  of 3-0  from  the House  members and  0-3 from  the                                                               
Senate members.   [Please note that a majority  of the membership                                                               
of the  committee from each house  must be in agreement  in order                                                               
to take action in a conference committee.]                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON announced  that the  motion to  accept Section  2 of                                                               
CSHB 24(FIN) failed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:10:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THOMAS  made a motion  to request limited powers  of free                                                               
conference  from   the  House  and  Senate   for  the  Conference                                                               
Committee for HB 24.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was  taken.  Representatives Olson, Johnson, and                                                               
Holmes voted in favor of the  motion to request limited powers of                                                               
free conference for HB 24.   Senators Thomas, French, and Paskvan                                                               
voted in favor  of it.  Therefore, the motion  to request limited                                                               
powers of  free conference for  HB 24 passed  with a vote  of 3-0                                                               
from the House members and 3-0  from the Senate members.  [Please                                                               
note  that a  majority of  the membership  of the  committee from                                                               
each house  must be  in agreement  in order to  take action  in a                                                               
conference committee.]                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON announced  that the motion to  request limited powers                                                               
of free conference passed.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:11:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON stated  that the letter to request  limited powers of                                                               
free conference would allow the  Conference Committee on HB 24 to                                                               
adopt  any language  or effective  dates.   He  related that  his                                                               
staff  would complete  the letter  with appropriate  sections and                                                               
circulate it to  members for their signatures.  He  said he hoped                                                               
both  bodies  would  act  on   the  request  and  the  Conference                                                               
Committee on HB 24 could meet this afternoon.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON recessed to the call of the Chair.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
11:59:37 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON  reconvened  the  Conference  Committee  on  HB  24.                                                               
Representatives Olson,  Johnson, and  Holmes were present  at the                                                               
call to order. Senators Thomas,  Paskvan, and French were present                                                               
at the call to order.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
12:00:01 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THOMAS moved  to adopt  Conceptual Amendment  1 [to  SCS                                                               
CSHB 24(FIN)].                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
12:00:27 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON  explained that  Conceptual Amendment  1 to  SCS CSHB
24(FIN) would read as follows:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
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          Insert "2014"                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
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          Insert "2014"                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON then removed his objection.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
12:01:00 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was  taken.  Representatives Olson, Johnson, and                                                               
Holmes  voted  in  favor  of   the  motion  to  adopt  Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 1  to SCS CSHB  24(FIN).  Senators Thomas,  French, and                                                               
Paskvan voted in  favor of the motion.  Therefore,  the motion to                                                               
adopt Conceptual  Amendment 1 to  SCS CSHB 24(FIN) passed  with a                                                               
vote  of 3-0  from  the House  members and  3-0  from the  Senate                                                               
members.  [Please  note that a majority of the  membership of the                                                               
committee from each  house must be in agreement in  order to take                                                               
action in a conference committee.]                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON reported that Conceptual Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
12:01:41 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THOMAS moved  that the Conference Committee  pass out the                                                               
SCS CSHB 24 (FIN), as amended.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON objected.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
12:02:12 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOHNSON  expressed   his  concern  in  addressing                                                               
policy  statements in  extension bills.   He  offered his  belief                                                               
that  policy measures  should go  through  the committee  process                                                               
appropriately.   He  related  that an  extension  bill should  be                                                               
based  on whether  the program  should move  forward, but  policy                                                               
decisions  should   be  made  separately.     He  said,   "It  is                                                               
reluctantly that I  will vote yes to send this  forward.  I don't                                                               
like  policies  done  in  extensions."    He  then  withdrew  his                                                               
objection.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
12:02:42 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON remarked  this is the first time he  has gone in this                                                               
direction.    He related  that  he  also prefers  clean  "sunset"                                                               
bills.  He acknowledged that the  legislature has had a number of                                                               
reasons for  taking this path  on HB 24.   He offered  his belief                                                               
that  it is  critical that  the Regulatory  Commission of  Alaska                                                               
(RCA) has an additional three  years to operate.  He acknowledged                                                               
other issues exist,  but this action would allow the  RCA time to                                                               
resolve some of the issues.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
12:03:13 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was  taken.  Representatives Olson, Johnson, and                                                               
Holmes  voted in  favor of  reporting  the SCS  CSHB 24(FIN),  as                                                               
amended, from  committee.  Senators  Thomas, French,  and Paskvan                                                               
voted in  favor of reporting  SCS CSHB 24(FIN), as  amended, from                                                               
committee.  Therefore, the  Conference Committee Substitute (CCS)                                                               
for HB  24 was reported  from the  Conference Committee on  HB 24                                                               
with  a vote  of 3-0  from  the House  members and  3-0 from  the                                                               
Senate members.   [Please note that a majority  of the membership                                                               
of the  committee from each house  must be in agreement  in order                                                               
to take action in a conference committee.]                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
12:03:46 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON reported  that  the Conference  Committee  on HB  24                                                               
unanimously supported moving the CCS HB 24 from committee.                                                                      

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